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Escrito por Cronos el martes, 21 de diciembre de 2010

La cuestion de la propiedad intelectual y los derechos de explotacion de bienes intangibles da para mucho, para muchísimo. Y es un tema que procuro evitar, mas que nada porque de unos años a esta parte se ha instalado una especie de talibanismo anti-autores que no tiene mucho sentido, si bien es comprensible. El problema es que es imposible en casi cualquier foro de opinion intentar mantener una discusion minimamente racional con nadie sobre este tema si pretendes matizar un minimo todo lo que se salga de la idea "sgae=kk". No deja de tener sentido, acudiendo a la nefasta política de comunicacion de la sociedad de autores, que tildó de delincuentes y "piratas" a quien, con la ley en la mano (e incluso despues del cambio que pretende instaurar la ministra de cultura) y con resolucion judicial de por medio nunca había delinquido y al entreguismo de los propios autores hacia las productoras -tambien tiene lógica, muchos autores son tambien productores de otros, en realidad defienden su propio negocio.

Lo primero que hay que aclarar es que, en contra de lo que se está diciendo desde una serie de webs implicadas que no dudan en victimizarse con cierta razon, dado que su actividad ha sido declarada legal en varios procesos judiciales ya, recursos incluidos no se va a sacar del ámbito judicial la decision del cierre de páginas web, aunque si se perjudicará gravemente a cualquier acusado de ser el propietario de una página de enlaces, puesto que estos asuntos se han dejado bajo la jurisdicción de la Audiencia Nacional en lugar de dejarlo en la jurisdiccion ordinaria, lo que obligará a los personados en estas causas a ir a declarar, ir a oir su sentencia, etc etc a Madrid, sea de Burgos o de Tenerife, con el perjuicio grave que esto supone. En realidad es una excepcionalidad muy poco comprensible, pero que deja claro a quien pretende mimar el ministerio de cultura. Preguntaos si las entidades de gestion de derechos tienen todas sede en Madrid o no.

A nivel práctico estan queriendo ponerle puertas al mar. Lo peor de esta medida es que no sirve para nada. Un concepto sencillo, importántisimo en toda esta cuestión: replicación. La información, a diferencia de los bienes materiales, es replicable hasta el infinito. O sea, que mientras haya espacio fisico en el soporte, uno puede copiar la misma informacion infinitas veces. ¿Por que es esto importante? Porque mantener "mirrors" -servidores espejo, o servidores que contienen copias exactas de la informacion contenida en otro- es sencillo y muy barato. Dado que los procesos sancionadores, conociendo la velocidad y eficacia de la administracion del estado español, serán de varias semanas, los webmasters de estos servidores solo tendran que tener copias de seguridad de los contenidos para, segun se produzca el "cierre" de la web, proceder a abrirla de nuevo en otro sitio. Y me estoy quedando en la solucion mas sencilla, a los que quieren compartir su informacion a traves de internet les será hasta sencillo evitar el control oficial. Incluso si pretendieran hacer "cierres preventivos" -lo que sería una grave excepcion legal, puesto que estas paginas, aunque nos creamos la más que matizable tesis de que perjudican económicamente a distribuidoras y autores en ningun caso supondrán un riesgo de ningun tipo lo suficientemente grave como para justificar la toma de una medida cautelar de esa indole.

Pero, ¿que es lo que está pasando realmente? ¿Para que se escribe una ley de dudosa validez (recordemos que han tenido que entrar a la judicializacion del proceso ante el riesgo de que se la declarasen inconstitucional por eso), impopular, y que va contra lo establecido en no pocas sentencias judiciales previas sobre este tipo de actividad? En mi opinion, lo que hacen es, o pura cosmética -este gobierno es especialista- o simple incompetencia. Lo que si está claro que hacen es servir a los intereses de un grupo de poder que pretende defender un modelo de negocio obsoleto a golpe de leyes, y, a la vez, se mantiene la situacion de privilegio de otro sector económico, que es el verdadero beneficiado de la extension de los servicios de internet de banda ancha a gran parte de la población.

Bien, vayamos al fondo del problema, y enfoquémoslo como lo hay que enfocar bajo el sistema legal español. En las leyes españolas, el derecho del autor nace necesariamente de la explotación económica de su obra. Esto significa que replicar una obra sin animo de lucro en ninguna caso se puede considerar ilícito, y, por lo tanto, las calificaciones de ilegalidad que llevan mucho tiempo en los medios son categóricamente falsas. Quien debe pagar al autor es el que obtiene beneficio economico de la explotacion de su obra. Por lo tanto, tu, que te ves una película en tu casita descargada de internet, dado que no obtienes ningun tipo de beneficio economico, no puedes, en ningun caso, ser tratado como el que realiza el acto ilegal. Esta asuncion, que es la base en la que se sustenta el asunto del canon -el famoso canon, aunque se traslada al usuario final, como cualquier otro coste, se le cobra a las empresas que venden hardware porque están obteniendo un beneficio económico de que sus máquinas o sus soportes puedan ser, y de hecho sean, utilizados para almacenar y/o visionar contenidos que generan derechos de autor- no suele explicarse nunca, y es un ejercicio que los autores deberían haberse esforzado en realizar. A todo esto, el principio legal por el que puedes compartir tu informacion es el mismo que te permite prestar un disco o un libro a un amigo, o escuchar una coancion o ver una peli con el. Mientras no haya dinero de por medio -directo o indirecto, lo de poner musica en tu bar si tienes que pagarlo- no hay posible perjuicio, dado que lo que genera el derecho de autor es el lucro, la obtencion de reditos economicos por el uso de la obra. Bien, primer paso: No somos delincuentes, ni piratas, ni nada que se le parezca. Si hay un pirata aqui, no somos nosotros.

Un hecho sencillo: los autores, además de sus derechos de autor, cobran de las productoras/distribuidoras (discográficas, editoriales, de cine), que son las que financian los productos en la mayoría de los casos. Casi todos ellos se han lanzado en los brazos de sus "patrones" para protestar a su lado no por sus derechos, sino por una manera de hacer las cosas que ya no sirve, que ya no es rentable. Esta union de facto ha sido uno de los pilares que está haciendo imposible enfocar este problema con un minimo de coherencia. Si no somos capaces de separar autores de productores/distribuidores no podremos ver los arboles, porque nos lo impide el bosque. ¿Que es lo que quiere el autor? Cobrar por su creacion. Con el sistema legal español, el autor puede reclamar a cualquiera que se lucre con su obra, y, si demuestra el lucro, cobrar lo que le corresponde. ¿Que es lo que quiere la productora/distribuidora? Seguir ganando dinero con el modelo de negocio que ya tenía.

¿Es hoy por hoy minimamente realista opráctico seguir manteniendo ambas visiones como una sola, tal y como se está haciendo en público? Radicalmente: NO. ¿por que? Porque lo que necesita el autor es, básicamente, financiación para poder crear, y la posibilidad de recibir retribucion por su obra ya creada. En realidad, ambas cosas son la misma: cobrar por su trabajo.

Sin embargo, ¿que necesita la distribuidora para poder mantener su manera de obtener beneficios? Simple: Que se apague internet, y desaparezcan los ordenadores. Porque el problema es ese, el modelo de negocio que defienden. Mas atras hable de replicacion: Desde que existen ordenadores, la informacion es infinitamente replicable. Desde que existe internet, la informacion es infinitamente retransmitible. Y todo esto por costes ridículos o casi nulos. ¿Que hace una distribuidora/productora? Lo mismo que hace un ordenador gratis, pero cobrando: copiar y distribuir informacion (que es lo que es una peli, un libro, o una cancion). ¿Alguien me explica como esto puede ser rentable? Lo que está pidiendo esta gente es que se legisle para doblegar la realidad tecnológica en lugar de legislar para adaptarse a esa realidad. Y este gobierno les está bailando el agua. Y solo porque los "autores" siguen posicionandose como si defender "lo suyo" y defender "lo de la productora" fuese lo mismo, cuando ni de lejos, como acabamos de ver, es así. ¿Os imaginais a los ganaderos de caballos pidiendo que se prohibiera el tren o se limitara su uso "porque destruye su negocio"? Pues esto es lo que pretenden los productores/distribuidores: En lugar de readaptarse a la nueva situacion, quieren que el poder del estado, a golpe de multas, cierres, o carcel, defienda su negocio frente a la realidad tecnológica, que dice que está obsoleto.

Pero aun falta un actor más para completar el plano. Hablaba de que el autor debe buscar su dinero en el lugar donde está el lucro sobre su obra. Con el cambio de paradigma en este negocio que ha supuesto internet, ¿quien es el que se está beneficiando enormemente de las descargas de material sujeto a derechos de autor sin pagar un solo centimo a los autores? Recordemos que los fabricantes de soportes y hardware ya pasan por caja via "canon digital". Personalmente, creo que los que se dedican a compartir enlaces podrían -ganan dinero via publicidad, aunque una cantidad ridicula en comparacion a aquellos a los que me refiero- pagar derechos tambien, aunque sería el chocolate del loro, todo sea dicho. Tambien están los servidores de alojamiento de datos (si, esas paginas a las que subes el archivo que despues se baja tu colega, o desde la que ves directamente la peli online) están obteniendo beneficios a costa de los contenidos sujetos a derechos. Pero, ¿quienes son los verdaderos beneficiados de todo esto?

Un dato: Durante el cierre de un dia de las paginas de intercambio de enlaces, la actividad en internet en españa bajo casi un 50%.

Efectivamente: Tu proveedor de servicios de internet, ese que te cobra un tanto al mes por usar la red, no paga ni el primer centimo a los autores, a pesar de que un porcentaje altísimo de su negocio se basa en que tu (y yo) utilizamos el servicio que nos venden para acceder a ese contenido. ¿Se va viendo claro? Si en tu bar quieres tener musica puesta (y la licencia lo permite) tendrás que pagar una cantidad anual en concepto de derechos, y tiene sentido legal porque estas usando esos productos de autor para dar un valor añadido a tu negocio. Sin embargo, ¿Estamos seguiendo esa misma lógica con el acceso a internet? ¿Acaso no es cierto que la mayoría de la gente se da de alta para ese tipo de actividad? ¿Acaso no es cierto que un porcentaje grande de la actividad de internet implica el acceso a contenidos sujetos a derechos de autor? Y si, efectivamente, que le cobren a tu proveedor de servicios implicará que te suban la factura, no lo dudes, pero, ¿que es mejor, hacer eso, o dedicarnos a poner policias, a meter multas, o a encarcelar para proteger el -inexistente- derecho de cierto sector industrial a cobrar por lo que un ordenador hace gratis?

Hoy mismo, a cuenta de que se vota la famosa ley sinde(cencia), escuché al propio Alex de la Iglesia, director de cine, y presidente de la academia de cine española, hablando como tal, señalando en la misma direccion. Decía que ellos eran dos cosas, no una: usuarios de internet, y creadores de contenido. Y que no creian que la solucion fuese cerrar paginas ni encarcelar "piratas", sino aplicar el concepto de derecho de autor, y comenzar a cobrar de los que han obtenido un descomunal lucro -que además continuará, o incluso aumentará, las redes de telecomunicaciones son caras de construir, pero baratas de mantener- con el cambio tecnológico que ordenadores e internet han supuesto.
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Enviado por Yosi_ el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Hombre, el problema del modelo que comentas es claro: al fin y al cabo consiste en crear un impuesto para universalizar la cultura usando como intermediarias a unas cuantas empresas con intereses privados que no van a dudar en pactar precios y usarlo como herramienta de negocio.

Mi primera objeción es que puedo estar de acuerdo con la cultura socializada, pero no en base a criterios de mercado. Si se va a subvencionar públicamente, asegurémonos de que todo el mundo que quiera, por ejemplo, grabar un disco, tiene acceso a los mismos medios, y olvidémonos de remuneraciones proporcionales al nivel de ingresos, de fama o de éxito en cualquiera de sus acepciones. ¿Y en base a qué partimos el pastel? ¿Quién es bueno, quién no, y quien tiene derecho a disponer del tiempo para llegar a serlo? Tal vez todos, con lo cual es posible que todo esto no tenga demasiado sentido...

En segundo lugar, no hay por qué aceptar el esquema de gestión privada, no aporta nada al modelo. Si pretendemos matar la gallina de los huevos de oro del señor Alierta, se fijan tarifas máximas con claridad meridiana y que las instituciones públicas gestionen el canon de turno directamente. La recaudación encubierta llevada a cabo por los ISP puede dar lugar a una situación muy peligrosa, más aún en tanto en cuanto se conviertan en intermediarios irrenunciables para ciertos lobbies del mundillo audiovisual.
Enviado por Cronos el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Yosi, conste que no quise profundizar demasiado en cuestiones ideológicas, básicamente porque mi intentcion era echar un poco de luz sobre lo que realmente esta pasando.

Por supuesto "mi" propuesta no sería esta, parto de la base de que este problema es una parte de un problema mayor (la propiedad intelectual y la conveniencia o no de que se comercie con ideas, ya no solo con productos culturales), y este a su vez es una parte de un problema aun mayor, que es el modo de organizacion económica capitalista. Por supuesto, si buscara la solucion perfecta, comenzaría por resolver el problema mayor de todos, y estos problemas subsecuentes se verían atenuados o solucionados de manera directa.

Lo que he propuesto es lo que me parece la salida mas sencilla al problema sin tener que hacer cambios estructurales mucho mas fuertes. De hecho, es la solucion que emana del sistema legal que nos ha tocado, que dista mucho del modelo yanqui (y en realidad uno de los problemas de fondo es ese), dado que los yanquis no asumen el derecho de copia que legalmente se asume (y se cobra) aqui.

Por supuesto, y en la linea de "sin cambiar lo verdaderamente gordo" en lo que propongo faltaría añadir unos cuantos detalles, como la implementacion de sistemas de control y transparencia dentro de las propias entidades de gestion, y tambien una gestion interna mucho mas democratica y mas especifica (o sea, que se base en algo mas que las listas de ventas de 4 discograficas), que garantizase un reparto mas justo del dinero generado. Y, por supuesto, sacar a editores/productores/distribuidores de las asociaciones de derechos, no pintan nada -defienden negocios distintos por muchoq ue digan que no- y convierten estas asociaciones en sindicatos verticales, con lo que conlleva (como vemos).
Enviado por Sumiciu el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

UN par de cosillas, aunque ya te comenté por otro sitio ciertos puntos.

Que antes la ley diera lugar a ciertas sentencias, no quiere decir que no pueda modificarse la ley para evitar sentencias en cierto sentido. El escenario es nuevo y de hecho creo que facilitaba que cambiasen esas sentencias al contemplarse explicitamente el corte del servicio en vez de la retirada del material o los enlaces de turno. Aparte de hablar en condicional, con que pueda ser objeto de delito se pueden tomar medidas.

En el caso del software no tienes derecho generalmente a la copia privada, de hecho la mayoria de veces no tienes ni derecho a utilizarlo en otra máquina.

Y el derecho de autor en España nace de la creación realmente, ahy ciertos derechos aparte de los de explotación que igual habría que analizar.

Estoy de acuerdo en la innecesidad de las distribuidoras, pero creo que el caso de las infraestructuras es distinto. Las teleco ponen la infraestrcutura para que otros desarrollen ahi sus servicios, a cambio las teleco nos cobran por utilizar esa infraestructura. Ya están cobrándole implícitamente a los prestadores de servicios, o al menos a aquellos que no han desarrollado su propia infraestructura, pero vamos basicamente la relación es simbiótica sin infraestrcuturas no habría servicios y sin servicios nadie contrataría las infraestructuras.

En ese sentido ya existen proveedores de servicios que pagan a los artistas, lo que no tengo claro es que les esté resultando bien. El mercado musical esta hecho para el consumo masivo y el control de los medios, fuera de ahí...
Enviado por Cronos el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Por supuesto que la ley puede modificarse, el tema es que la ley que se uso para archivar esos casos no ha sido ni tocada de lejos, ni planteado que se tocase, porque -si no me equivoco- necesitarían tocar leyes fundamentales. Para cambiar "eso" tendrían que reescribir varias leyes orgánicas, y, entre otras cosas, cargarse la sgae. Lo que no tiene cabida legal es que primero te cobren porque vas a usar el derecho de copia privada y luego pretendan condenarte por hacerlo. O una cosa o la otra. Y el caso es que "ese ente al que los medios llaman los autores pero en realidad son las distribuidoras usando a algunos autores, todos muy ricos, como voceros" quiere las dos. Y claro, eso puede colar de cara a la galería (sobre todo a algunas) pero cuando se trata de escribirlo en un papel y que lo sancione el congreso ya no es tan bonito. Y cuando tienes claro que te vas a comer uno o mas recursos de incontitucionalidad y los vas a perder, pues peor se pone. Es sencillo: O cambian todo el sistema de propiedad intelectual, o asumen que tienen que cobrar derechos en las cuentas de la factura de interné. De hecho, como explico dani en otro foro, ya pagamos parte de los derechos de autor de las televisiones (¡¡¡) en la factura telefónica...

Yo no he dicho que la teleco sea necesaria. He dicho que las telecos se estan enriqueciendo en base al comercio de material sujeto a derechos mediante su servicio. Es la misma base que el tema de la tele o la musica en el bar. El material de autor es parte de su oferta. Es muy sencillo: supongamos que (fuese posible que) las telecos pudieran limitar el acceso a material de autor mediante su servicio. ¿Tu crees que lo implementarian o aceptarían con facilidad que se hiciese? Ya te digo yo que no. Perderían dinero, y no poco. Por lo tanto es facil concluir que realmente se lucran de esta actividad. Y si se lucran, que pongan (y si, efectivamente, lo pagaremos nosotros). Por supuesto, no estoy hablando de los servicios de pago adicional, que ya pagan su actividad a las discog.. a los autores, estoy hablando del uso de, por ejemplo, programas p2p para compartir archivos. De eso se lucra el proveedor de internet, claramente. Y es una posibilidad inherente a su servicio.
Enviado por Sumiciu el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Pero es que realmente no veo que en este caso te condenen por nada relacionado con la copia privada porque estamos en un contexto de difusión. Y salvo que me hables de almacenamiento personal "en la nube", creo que esa cuestión no aplica. Y aún así, lo que te digo, si puedes hacer copia privada de la música, pero del software como mucho copia de seguridad y depende en que casos (las limitaciones están en la LPI artículo 31.2).

Es posible que las telecos limiten el servicio, de hecho es lo que están empezando a hacer ahora y la base de la batalla de la neutralidad de la red: si quieres utilizar p2p, paga el paquete, sino tienes conexión capada. Y esto ya existe, suena raro en España, más allá de la VOIP. Pero O2 (la marca de telefónica en UK) ya lo está haciendo. Lógicamente no miran si el material que estás transmitiendo tiene derecho de autor, simplemente presuponen que ciertos servicios se utilizan para eso y los cierran (ya te digo, concretamente el p2p en la Gran Bretaña y me suena que Eire, a veces se capa). La misma lógica que la compensación por copia privada que existe en España.
Enviado por Yosi_ el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Las telecos se están enriqueciendo, y no nos engañemos, también los fabricantes de soportes (caducaron los CDs, ahora mandan los discos duros, pero para el caso es lo mismo), y de ahí salió el famoso canon. Canon que paga, en teoría, la industria, no el usuario final, así que siendo estrictos no es un gran argumento para defender el derecho a la copia privada.

Esto de lo que hablas va al fin y al cabo de lo mismo, desplazar el impuesto paliativo de ganancias de un sector a otro, hacer que pague Telefónica en vez de Verbatim, pero se trata del mismo invento. Claro que hasta ahora todo esto no ha llevado a nada, y nada hace pensar que medidas similares vayan a conseguirlo. La industria quiere más, siempre más, y a la parte marginal de la cultura nunca van a llegar ni siquiera las migajas. Por otro lado, la parte mayoritaria hace tiempo que ni siquiera puede considerarse cultura, así que el juego consiste en mover riqueza de un sector a otro. No hay salida fácil para resolver el problema del músico, escritor o actor de a pie, es imprescindible replantear todo desde la raíz.
Enviado por Sumiciu el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Hostia, el primer párrafo de Yosi casi lo había calcao yo en el mensaje anterior y se ve que lo borre sin querer xD
Enviado por Cronos el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Hombre, por supuesto que pagaremos nosotros. Eso no lo dudeis. Pagamos nosotros con los CDs, pagamos nosotros con los HDs, y pagaremos nosotros si les meten un canon a las lineas de internet (de hecho, deberían poner tarifas "con" y "sin" p2p, y problema ahorrado). Está claro que nosotros pagamos, como tambien pagamos mas indirectamente los contenidos que emiten las TVs en abierto (via publicidad, que a su vez se paga con los productos que nosotros compramos). Siempre paga el consumidor, eso es evidente, y para cambiarlo tendríamos que darle la vuelta a todo (y de nuevo, pagaría el que trabaja, porque es quien puede pagar). Simplemente, buscaba la manera razonable de hacerlo sin meter en la carcel a gente, y sin incluir una revolucion necesaria.

En cuanto a si es razonable o no... pues mira, en mi opinion, sin cambiar nada mucho mas gordo, es lo menos malo que nos puede pasar. Lo que es evidente es que cambiar las leyes sobre propiedad intelectual para yanquizarlas es un lio del copon, y además en ejpaña no iba a funcionar demasiado bien. Y tambien resulta evidente que los intentos de control son prácticamente imposibles salvo que las telecos "entren" (y dudo muchisimo que quieran cargarse a si mismas con los costes y la responsabilidad de implementar algo que sería solo parcialmente funcional).

¿Que van a hacer con servidores en el extranjero (¿la interpol persiguiendo a quien se baje el ultimo de melendri?? xDDD)? ¿Y con los que se situen en paises que no han firmado acuerdos sobre propiedad intelectual o que tienen -normalmente por sus constituciones- leyes que son mucho mas rigidas en todo lo tocante a comunicaciones personales? ¿Cuanto tiempo podríamos tardar en escribir 20 protocolos de comunicacion distintos para cumplir las funciones que esta teniendo el P2P? ¿Y si me bajo algo en un ciber, meteran en el talego al dueño del ciber - que tendría que escoger entre violar el secreto de las comunicaciones del cliente o que le aprezca la policía de la propiedad intelectual?
Enviado por Replica Watches el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

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Hanfu, with the name oriented from the Chinese meaning 'Han people's garments', encompassing all kinds as well as styles of traditional apparel worn by the Han Chinese.
The Han Chinese trace an usual origins to the Huaxia, a name for the preliminary confederation of farming tribes living along the Yellow River. The term Huaxia represents the cumulative Neolithic confederation of farming people Hua and Xia that settled along the Central Plains around the center and lower reaches of the Yellow River in northern China.
Hanfu, as its definitions, birthed at the start of the background of Han ethic. Consequently, it has the longest background among all conventional Chinese apparel.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Hanfu, with the name oriented from the Chinese meaning 'Han people's garments', encompassing all kinds as well as styles of traditional apparel worn by the Han Chinese.
The Han Chinese trace an usual origins to the Huaxia, a name for the preliminary confederation of farming tribes living along the Yellow River. The term Huaxia represents the cumulative Neolithic confederation of farming people Hua and Xia that settled along the Central Plains around the center and lower reaches of the Yellow River in northern China.
Hanfu, as its definitions, birthed at the start of the background of Han ethic. Consequently, it has the longest background among all conventional Chinese apparel.
newhanfu
Enviado por Yanrefitness el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

This is the ultimate guide to gym equipment manufacturers in China. We have waded through the overwhelming number of Chinese commercial gym suppliers to sort out the best from the rest, so that you can have complete confidence when it comes to selecting your preferred gym equipment manufacturer.
https://www.yanrefitness.com/top-10-gym-equipment-manufactures/
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

What are Pod Vapes?
Basically, pod vapes (or pod systems, pod mods and also lots of similar names) are e-cigarettes that use a "pod" as opposed to a standard container. The Juul was the initial pod system electronic cigarette as well as its pods are the ideal example of what this implies. best pod vape
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Calm, light and expertly intended to pump inside your nursing bra, <a href="https://momcozy.com/products/breast-pump-momcozy-wearable-electric-breast-pump">wearable breast pump</a> fit cautiously under your dress so you can pump - in a real sense - anyplace and whenever. Tubeless alternatives have an inherent engine, so the whole gadget is in every case totally covered.
Wearable pumps can be enormous life hacks. Wear one at work and there's no compelling reason to withdraw to a lactation space for your pumping meeting. Or on the other hand pump while getting things done, meeting companions, or instructing the tee ball game.
Calm, light and expertly intended to pump inside your nursing bra, <a href="https://momcozy.com/products/breast-pump-momcozy-wearable-electric-breast-pump">wearable pump</a> fit cautiously under your dress so you can pump - in a real sense - anyplace and whenever. Tubeless alternatives have an inherent engine, so the whole gadget is in every case totally covered.
Wearable pumps can be enormous life hacks. Wear one at work and there's no compelling reason to withdraw to a lactation space for your pumping meeting. Or on the other hand pump while getting things done, meeting companions, or instructing the tee ball game.
With the <a href="https://momcozy.com/products/breast-pump-momcozy-wearable-electric-breast-pump">Momcozy breast pump</a>, there is no base, no hanging tubes, no fittings, and no lines, and it's a totally without hands pump.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Calm, light and expertly intended to pump inside your nursing bra, wearable breast pump
fit cautiously under your dress so you can pump - in a real sense - anyplace and whenever. Tubeless alternatives have an inherent engine, so the whole gadget is in every case totally covered.
Wearable pumps can be enormous life hacks. Wear one at work and there's no compelling reason to withdraw to a lactation space for your pumping meeting. Or on the other hand pump while getting things done, meeting companions, or instructing the tee ball game.
Calm, light and expertly intended to pump inside your nursing bra, url=https://momcozy.com/products/breast-pump-momcozy-wearable-electric-breast-pump]wearable pump[/url] fit cautiously under your dress so you can pump - in a real sense - anyplace and whenever. Tubeless alternatives have an inherent engine, so the whole gadget is in every case totally covered.
Wearable pumps can be enormous life hacks. Wear one at work and there's no compelling reason to withdraw to a lactation space for your pumping meeting. Or on the other hand pump while getting things done, meeting companions, or instructing the tee ball game.
With the Momcozy breast pump, there is no base, no hanging tubes, no fittings, and no lines, and it's a totally without hands pump.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Nursing Pumping Bra By Momcozy
<a href="https://momcozy.com/products/momcozy-hands-free-nursing-pumping-bra">Momcozy Hands-Free Pumping Bra</a>
The hands-free breast pump bra provides you the most comfort and therefore the freedom to figure on tasks or simply relax whereas pumping. The hands-free breast pump bra comes with a convenient four adjustable back panel to make sure a comfortable match as your body undergoes natural changes whereas breastfeeding.
To overcome these difficulties, we provide you a <a href="https://momcozy.com/products/momcozy-hands-free-nursing-pumping-bra">nursing pumping bra</a> with an adjustable strap design, in order to improve the comfort when drawing it.
As with all aspects of breastfeeding, mastering a <a href="https://momcozy.com/products/momcozy-hands-free-nursing-pumping-bra">hands-free breast pump bra</a> takes a bit of time.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Nursing Pumping Bra By Momcozy

Momcozy Hands-Free Pumping Bra
The hands-free breast pump bra provides you the most comfort and therefore the freedom to figure on tasks or simply relax whereas pumping. The hands-free breast pump bra comes with a convenient four adjustable back panel to make sure a comfortable match as your body undergoes natural changes whereas breastfeeding.
Momcozy: a bra for mothers who want to express their milk
During the breastfeeding period, mothers may have to express their milk, whether it is to share the pleasure of feeding baby with dad, or for organizational reasons: returning to work, etc. Expressing her milk can quickly become a rather long, unpleasant moment, which causes some mothers to stop.
To overcome these difficulties, we provide you a nursing pumping bra with an adjustable strap design, in order to improve the comfort when drawing it.
How Does Nursing Pumping Bra Work?
The nursing pumping bra can be used as a regular nursing bra, with the fronts open to allow the breasts to pass through without having to remove everything for breastfeeding. If you then want to benefit from the message system, a pillow including the massage system and a bottle adapter should be integrated on each side of the bra to be able to connect to the electric breast pump (not included).
The massage pads are then controlled using a dedicated mobile app. Next, the mother chooses the ability to move one or two breasts, simultaneously or asynchronously, and the ability to control the speed, duration, and pressure of the massage for each breast. The goal is to enjoy a soft, relaxing pressure massage, and to reproduce hand pumping that stimulates milk production.
The manual breast pump is created of soppy silicone polymer and plastic that well hugs the breast. The manual breast pump contains a specially designed handle that reduces hand fatigue and permits moms to pump with one hand. The nursing pumping bra manual breast pump may be a straightforward, natural, and effective resolution for mothers. The app additionally helps you to keep track of once to specific your milk: however typically, how long, etc.

What Are The Benefits of Nursing Pumping Bra By Momcozy?
It allows the breast to be completely emptied, which results in both an increase in the volume of milk drawn and a reduction in breast pain associated with engorgement or mastitis for example.
The bra, created by a group of experts in health, medical devices, lactation, and lingerie is in the process of obtaining a patent, but the first results observed are rather promising: the use hands-free breast pump bra would reduce pumping time by 72%, and increase milk drawn up to 32%.
Here is an innovation that would allow some young mothers not to give up breastfeeding because of too painful breasts, or times to express too long and tedious. It remains to be seen whether the price offered remains suitable for a period of breastfeeding which is often only a few months. On the other hand, for long breastfeeding, investment can be interesting.
Using a nursing pumping bra allows you to collect milk when you are on the phone or on your computer when reading, eating, or playing with an older child. It also makes it easier to use the breast pump controls and handle your expressed milk bottles or sachets.
More Benefits
-    Helps to avoid breast pain during breastfeeding: engorgement, mastitis, etc.
-    Facilitates the moment when you have to express your milk.
-    Leave the mother's hands-free pumping bra when she is pumping her milk, which allows her to do another activity at the same time.
-    Experience hands-free pumping, Momcozy's pumping bra makes this experiment simple and easy
-    Besides, it increases confidence through safe dress
-    Designed to fit all breast pump
Technical characteristics :
    The set includes a bra, two massage pads
    Several cup sizes are available, to adapt to all breast shapes.
    Adjustable shoulder straps
    A detachable clip is easy to drop cups for convenient feeding.
    Color: black.
Tips For a Nursing Pumping Bra
As with all aspects of breastfeeding, mastering a hands-free breast pump bra takes a bit of time. Follow the following pointers to maximize your comfort and milk flow:
1.    Make sure that every one of your nipples is positioned within the center of every shield before setting out to specific.
2.    Make sure the expression brassiere holds every teat firmly in situ against your breasts however isn't too tight. If necessary, tighten or loosen the brassiere to form positive you are doing not limit the flow of milk.
3.    Express your milk at your most comfortable level, that is that the highest vacuum you'll well tolerate, as this has been proved to unleash additional milk quicker. Then Finding the correct suction level for you, step by step increase the vacuum till you're feeling slight discomfort (not pain), then lower the extent a notch.
4.    Avoid leaning on the defensive or pressing it too heavy against the skin, as this would possibly compress your milk ducts and limit the flow of milk.
5.    Massage your breasts from time to time throughout expression to push the free flow of milk through all channels.
6.    Feel your hands-free breast pump bra expressing to form positive they're fully drained. They must be flexible.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

Nursing Pumping Bra By Momcozy

Momcozy Hands-Free Pumping Bra
The hands-free breast pump bra provides you the most comfort and therefore the freedom to figure on tasks or simply relax whereas pumping. The hands-free breast pump bra comes with a convenient four adjustable back panel to make sure a comfortable match as your body undergoes natural changes whereas breastfeeding.
Momcozy: a bra for mothers who want to express their milk
During the breastfeeding period, mothers may have to express their milk, whether it is to share the pleasure of feeding baby with dad, or for organizational reasons: returning to work, etc. Expressing her milk can quickly become a rather long, unpleasant moment, which causes some mothers to stop.
To overcome these difficulties, we provide you a nursing pumping bra with an adjustable strap design, in order to improve the comfort when drawing it.
How Does Nursing Pumping Bra Work?
The nursing pumping bra can be used as a regular nursing bra, with the fronts open to allow the breasts to pass through without having to remove everything for breastfeeding. If you then want to benefit from the message system, a pillow including the massage system and a bottle adapter should be integrated on each side of the bra to be able to connect to the electric breast pump (not included).
The massage pads are then controlled using a dedicated mobile app. Next, the mother chooses the ability to move one or two breasts, simultaneously or asynchronously, and the ability to control the speed, duration, and pressure of the massage for each breast. The goal is to enjoy a soft, relaxing pressure massage, and to reproduce hand pumping that stimulates milk production.
The manual breast pump is created of soppy silicone polymer and plastic that well hugs the breast. The manual breast pump contains a specially designed handle that reduces hand fatigue and permits moms to pump with one hand. The nursing pumping bra manual breast pump may be a straightforward, natural, and effective resolution for mothers. The app additionally helps you to keep track of once to specific your milk: however typically, how long, etc.

What Are The Benefits of Nursing Pumping Bra By Momcozy?
It allows the breast to be completely emptied, which results in both an increase in the volume of milk drawn and a reduction in breast pain associated with engorgement or mastitis for example.
The bra, created by a group of experts in health, medical devices, lactation, and lingerie is in the process of obtaining a patent, but the first results observed are rather promising: the use hands-free breast pump bra would reduce pumping time by 72%, and increase milk drawn up to 32%.
Here is an innovation that would allow some young mothers not to give up breastfeeding because of too painful breasts, or times to express too long and tedious. It remains to be seen whether the price offered remains suitable for a period of breastfeeding which is often only a few months. On the other hand, for long breastfeeding, investment can be interesting.
Using a nursing pumping bra allows you to collect milk when you are on the phone or on your computer when reading, eating, or playing with an older child. It also makes it easier to use the breast pump controls and handle your expressed milk bottles or sachets.
More Benefits
-    Helps to avoid breast pain during breastfeeding: engorgement, mastitis, etc.
-    Facilitates the moment when you have to express your milk.
-    Leave the mother's hands-free pumping bra when she is pumping her milk, which allows her to do another activity at the same time.
-    Experience hands-free pumping, Momcozy's pumping bra makes this experiment simple and easy
-    Besides, it increases confidence through safe dress
-    Designed to fit all breast pump
Technical characteristics :
    The set includes a bra, two massage pads
    Several cup sizes are available, to adapt to all breast shapes.
    Adjustable shoulder straps
    A detachable clip is easy to drop cups for convenient feeding.
    Color: black.
Tips For a Nursing Pumping Bra
As with all aspects of breastfeeding, mastering a hands-free breast pump bra takes a bit of time. Follow the following pointers to maximize your comfort and milk flow:
1.    Make sure that every one of your nipples is positioned within the center of every shield before setting out to specific.
2.    Make sure the expression brassiere holds every teat firmly in situ against your breasts however isn't too tight. If necessary, tighten or loosen the brassiere to form positive you are doing not limit the flow of milk.
3.    Express your milk at your most comfortable level, that is that the highest vacuum you'll well tolerate, as this has been proved to unleash additional milk quicker. Then Finding the correct suction level for you, step by step increase the vacuum till you're feeling slight discomfort (not pain), then lower the extent a notch.
4.    Avoid leaning on the defensive or pressing it too heavy against the skin, as this would possibly compress your milk ducts and limit the flow of milk.
5.    Massage your breasts from time to time throughout expression to push the free flow of milk through all channels.
6.    Feel your hands-free breast pump bra expressing to form positive they're fully drained. They must be flexible.
Enviado por Ice111 el jueves, 1 de enero de 1970

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In the present world, the electronic product is used on a large scale for its growing demand. One of the best inventions of electronics in the last decade is PCB (printed circuit board). For the huge utilization in the electronic market and the internet arena, the requirements of the PCB are increasing day by day. The high-quality demand of the PCB to the clients has made the competition in the PCB manufacturer company. The cheap price and high quality of PCB is first priority to the customer. This is why the renowned manufacturer is trying to providing quality services for their venerate sellers. The world’s most popular PCB firm is A-TECH CIRCUIT.
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